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1611 The Authorized King James Bible
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Reviewer:
blewbubbles
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August 29, 2023 (edited)
Subject: The legendary 1611 King James Bible! ("he" edition).
Subject: The legendary 1611 King James Bible! ("he" edition).
<<< A quick word about the Bible scans over here:
This upload is identical to the King James bible of 1611 presented by https://www.originalbibles.com
There are several other identical uploads on archive.org of this bible scan. I assume that it is the PDF download offered by originalbibles. com which is uploaded over here. It is unclear from the originalbibles website where the scans come from, but my own web searches are pointing to the University of Pennsylvania Libraries, where the same pages are hosted in the Colenda Digital Repositories. So, this is the original source of the scans and the home of this particular copy: https://colenda.library.upenn.edu/catalog/81431-p3rv0df45
I'm not sure if this upload, including the other ones mentioned have been approved by Penn libraries. Probably not, but here is the attribution tag: Pennsylvania University Libraries >>>
About the 1611 publication:
According to the experts there were indeed more than one version of the 1611 edition, that were printed between 1611 and 1613, all of which carried the date of 1611 on the title page. The minute but numerous differences in text, page layout, chapter capitals and annotations relate to different typesets that were performed by the same printer, Barker, and sub-leased printers, Norton, and Bill, in London during the first three years of printing. They all belong to the same group of 1611 in terms of the biblical text translation. Two distinct editions exist of this period, known as the "he" and "she" versions, referring to a sentence in Ruth 3:15 (page 369 of this digital scan). This is a "he" edition, and therefore the oldest, or first impression. The first major revision of the authorised edition was done at Cambridge University in 1629 and 1638. A simular revision was made at Oxford in 1769, and most modern versions of the KJV are renditions of the Oxford version, most notably, because it doesn't contain the Apocrypha. Read the wiki for more hands-on information: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#:~:text=Bilson%2C%20Richard%20Bancroft.-,Printing,shillings%2C%20or%20bound%20for%20twelve.
Many online sources, especially Christian orientated websites, are providing a digital "Authorised Edition", mistaking it as the 1611 edition. It is important to keep in mind that the 1611 edition is fairly hard to read, towards illegible to most readers today, in its printed or digitally transcribed format, since the text belongs to the English spelling that was used in the early 17th century, as well as the use of old letter forms, like the long s which looks like an f without the cross bar, and u's and v's that were interchangeable. Compare, for instance, Matthew 9:1 in the 1611 edition to the same verse in a KJV pdf which I found online that is said to be the 1611 authorised version:
Mat. IX:1 And hee entered into a fhip, and paffed ouer, and came into his owne citie.
(1611. This scanned upload.)
Mat 9:1 AND he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.
(updated version. Source not given.)
The review left below by @keefer223 is misinformed. This is definitly a true 1611 edition of the King James Holy Bible. And gladly, none of the pages in this scan have been "photoshopped"! or "basterdize" (sic.). Book typesetting certainly differed quite a lot in the early seventeenth century from the present, unsurprisingly, and the variations in font in this bible edition were certainly done on purpose by the original printers in 1611. I would recommend that @keefer223 look a bit further for any other proofs to his assertions about the authenticity of the material, and for him to be prepared to curb his enthusiasm. Simply put, the King James Bible isn't the oldest English bible that we know, and has no more or less "authority" than others before it. It is only that the 1611 edition, the one presented over here, is the oldest King James version. The website I mentioned above have scans of many old editions of the Bible in English, including the Thomas Matthew bible of 1537, the Great Bible of 1540, and others. These bibles predate the so called authorised edition, and especially the Great Bible, which was the first official English bible to be read in churched during the rule of King Henry VIII, and the Geneva Bible which first appeared in 1560, and was later printed in London by the same Barker press under authorisation of Queen Elizabeth I, served as a template for the production of the Bible authorised by King James VI, known to us as the King James Bible. Have a look at those for comparison. There are plenty of uploads here on Archive.org to keep you busy for some time.
To conclude, It is easy to spot differences in the text of the 1611 edition and the following editions, in that the spelling of words are different, and mostly all later editions weren't printed in black letter, or Old English fonts. It is a pity that this upload excludes the cover boards and possibly some leading blank pages, but that doesn't alter the authenticity of the printed material.
I hope that my explanation will reassure others who would like to appreciate the beauty and value of this old bible, and disregard uninformed opinions that are trying to dismantle it.
This upload is identical to the King James bible of 1611 presented by https://www.originalbibles.com
There are several other identical uploads on archive.org of this bible scan. I assume that it is the PDF download offered by originalbibles. com which is uploaded over here. It is unclear from the originalbibles website where the scans come from, but my own web searches are pointing to the University of Pennsylvania Libraries, where the same pages are hosted in the Colenda Digital Repositories. So, this is the original source of the scans and the home of this particular copy: https://colenda.library.upenn.edu/catalog/81431-p3rv0df45
I'm not sure if this upload, including the other ones mentioned have been approved by Penn libraries. Probably not, but here is the attribution tag: Pennsylvania University Libraries >>>
About the 1611 publication:
According to the experts there were indeed more than one version of the 1611 edition, that were printed between 1611 and 1613, all of which carried the date of 1611 on the title page. The minute but numerous differences in text, page layout, chapter capitals and annotations relate to different typesets that were performed by the same printer, Barker, and sub-leased printers, Norton, and Bill, in London during the first three years of printing. They all belong to the same group of 1611 in terms of the biblical text translation. Two distinct editions exist of this period, known as the "he" and "she" versions, referring to a sentence in Ruth 3:15 (page 369 of this digital scan). This is a "he" edition, and therefore the oldest, or first impression. The first major revision of the authorised edition was done at Cambridge University in 1629 and 1638. A simular revision was made at Oxford in 1769, and most modern versions of the KJV are renditions of the Oxford version, most notably, because it doesn't contain the Apocrypha. Read the wiki for more hands-on information: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#:~:text=Bilson%2C%20Richard%20Bancroft.-,Printing,shillings%2C%20or%20bound%20for%20twelve.
Many online sources, especially Christian orientated websites, are providing a digital "Authorised Edition", mistaking it as the 1611 edition. It is important to keep in mind that the 1611 edition is fairly hard to read, towards illegible to most readers today, in its printed or digitally transcribed format, since the text belongs to the English spelling that was used in the early 17th century, as well as the use of old letter forms, like the long s which looks like an f without the cross bar, and u's and v's that were interchangeable. Compare, for instance, Matthew 9:1 in the 1611 edition to the same verse in a KJV pdf which I found online that is said to be the 1611 authorised version:
Mat. IX:1 And hee entered into a fhip, and paffed ouer, and came into his owne citie.
(1611. This scanned upload.)
Mat 9:1 AND he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.
(updated version. Source not given.)
The review left below by @keefer223 is misinformed. This is definitly a true 1611 edition of the King James Holy Bible. And gladly, none of the pages in this scan have been "photoshopped"! or "basterdize" (sic.). Book typesetting certainly differed quite a lot in the early seventeenth century from the present, unsurprisingly, and the variations in font in this bible edition were certainly done on purpose by the original printers in 1611. I would recommend that @keefer223 look a bit further for any other proofs to his assertions about the authenticity of the material, and for him to be prepared to curb his enthusiasm. Simply put, the King James Bible isn't the oldest English bible that we know, and has no more or less "authority" than others before it. It is only that the 1611 edition, the one presented over here, is the oldest King James version. The website I mentioned above have scans of many old editions of the Bible in English, including the Thomas Matthew bible of 1537, the Great Bible of 1540, and others. These bibles predate the so called authorised edition, and especially the Great Bible, which was the first official English bible to be read in churched during the rule of King Henry VIII, and the Geneva Bible which first appeared in 1560, and was later printed in London by the same Barker press under authorisation of Queen Elizabeth I, served as a template for the production of the Bible authorised by King James VI, known to us as the King James Bible. Have a look at those for comparison. There are plenty of uploads here on Archive.org to keep you busy for some time.
To conclude, It is easy to spot differences in the text of the 1611 edition and the following editions, in that the spelling of words are different, and mostly all later editions weren't printed in black letter, or Old English fonts. It is a pity that this upload excludes the cover boards and possibly some leading blank pages, but that doesn't alter the authenticity of the printed material.
I hope that my explanation will reassure others who would like to appreciate the beauty and value of this old bible, and disregard uninformed opinions that are trying to dismantle it.
Reviewer:
rsavilla
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April 26, 2023
Subject: Ruth 3:15 shows he went into the City.
Subject: Ruth 3:15 shows he went into the City.
Villanova's scan site states that this the first printing of 1611. Ruth 3:15 shows "he went" into the City. The second printing fixed this to "she went".
https://digital.library.villanova.edu/Record/vudl:60609/Description
https://digital.library.villanova.edu/Record/vudl:60609/Description
Reviewer:
keefer223
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February 26, 2023
Subject: Not a copy of the 1611 King James Bible
Subject: Not a copy of the 1611 King James Bible
This might be a photocopy of a bible, BUT IT IS NOT A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL 1611 BIBLE. This is a much latter version of the bible that has been revised from the original version. You don't have to be a religious scholar to tell the difference. The main clue is the fact that the book is riddled with "typesetting" inserts that don't match the original text. The other hint that it is a bastardize version is missing the cover and several of the following pages are missing. However, on the first couple of blank pages you can see where the ink bleed through from the other side note copied.The original 1611 version in Greek or English would not have columns for notes.
Reviewer:
Bethenny
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October 5, 2022
Subject: fookitall - Which lines have you found photoshopped so far?
Subject: fookitall - Which lines have you found photoshopped so far?
I'm only now beginning to examine this text and I'll report back with any findings.
Reviewer:
TerenceGman
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June 13, 2022
Subject: Critical references
Subject: Critical references
Song of Solomon 2:7 must read - "she please" not he like the Blayney mistake riddled KJV (cannot be KJV because KJ was dead in 1769!) You must Lamp in the Dark ytube channel - John Doerr who studied every single letter in the 1611. See the true1611bible.com for some nice flip books too.
Reviewer:
Zezinha
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October 19, 2021 (edited)
Subject: @fookitall
Subject: @fookitall
Hmm, interesting, I did not know THAT.
Reviewer:
fookitall
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October 11, 2021
Subject: looks like some lines was photoshopped...
Subject: looks like some lines was photoshopped...
seriously what is in this bible they don't want us to see...
Reviewer:
sklal84
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May 5, 2017
Subject: Full original 1611 version!
Subject: Full original 1611 version!
I like it. You can also find individual books of the Bible extracted from the original 1611 version of the King James Bible here https://archive.org/details/GenesisKJV1611OriginalVersionBible and here https://archive.org/details/@sklal84&tab=uploads
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